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[sophiaserpentia]

Why do I even bother to look in christianity anymore? Half of what I see there literally makes me sick.

Edit. What disturbs me this morning in particular are (a) ignorant comments about homosexuality which never fails to upset me, and (b) willful ignorance regarding anti-Semitism.

For example, it's being discussed that Gibson has taken a scene out of his movie that shows a Jew lamenting that Jesus' blood will be on their heads forever. Comments such as, "But that's in the Bible, so it's historically true and COULDN'T POSSIBLY be anti-Semitic" are what has riled me.

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Re: check ya

[publius-aelius.livejournal.com]

I don't want to quibble with you--honest, I don't--and some of the stuff you say makes a great deal of sense (especially when you suggest THAT, PRACTICALLY SPEAKING, THERE'S NO REAL DIFFERENCE), but my understanding of the Spanish phobia against the marranos and conversos was that they believed that Judaism--the religion WAS STILL BEING PRACTISED by these people, but in secret. It was the religion that drove them bananas, because they seemed to believe--despite tremendous evidence to the contrary (Teresa of Avila was, by descent, a Jewess)--that it'd be impossible for a Jew to convert to Christianity and STAY CONVERTED. Somehow, they seemed to believe that the tendency to practise the religion was an atavistic impulse. I don't think, then, that the Spanish version of anti-Semitism or anti-Judaism--call it what you will--was really like the Nazis' version, involving crack-brained, pseudo-scientific theories about race. The Spaniards weren't interested in exterminating a people--just in separating them from the devout, who, supposedly, might become contaminated by Jewish religious practice--same as they were determined to keep Protestantism out of the Iberian peninsula, as well. But that's my take on it, gleaned from historical readings, and I may be wrong.

one thing leads to another... we are not victims of history unless we are not participants

[belisariuss.livejournal.com]

I didn't mean to suggest that the reconquista
and its after affects
were the full blown realization of nazi anti semitism

only the beginnings

you're right
in that the phobia
at least in the beginning
of the marranos
appears to be about religion

but
this changes dramatically with pietro caraffa
and the statute of toledo

limpieza de sangre
cannot be held to be the traditional antijudaic line

the spanish may not have been concerned with extermination
but
extermination
isn't necessary
to prove genocide

in fact
the spanish were more than likely guilty of genocide
since
they sought
not only to separate
the holy from the unholy
but to destroy the jews way of life

this under the genocide convention
constitutes genocide

Constantine