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What is it about Boston that it keeps stealing cool people away from New Orleans?

[Poll #140901]

Date: 2003-06-02 09:30 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] azaz-al.livejournal.com
Who else is moving up here?

Date: 2003-06-02 09:58 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sophiaserpentia.livejournal.com
No one we know closely. Just saw a notice on the nola goth list about someone moving to Boston, and it seems like over the last few years, that's the flow of things.

Hey! You and Ruth and Fish started it. Cut it out! We need our cool people here.

Date: 2003-06-02 10:07 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] elnigma.livejournal.com
heheh a couple of former NOleans people I don't know if you know moved up here, now they going way up further north. Maybe too much heat gets absorbed in, and they need Taoist balance.. joke

Re:

Date: 2003-06-02 11:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] azaz-al.livejournal.com
Well, we talk about moving to NOLA after Aaron is grown. But I don't think we'll contemplate moving back sooner unless: the schools suddenly improve about 500% or more; the voters of New Orleans suddenly decide to elect people who have a smidgen of respect for all NOLA citizens and not just those who who are Catholic/fabulously wealthy; they do something to reverse the current trend of coastal erosion that threatens to drown the entire sity in less than a century; and the police department ceases to be corrupt.

IOW - probably when pigs fly...

music is good...

Date: 2003-06-02 06:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] partyrunes.livejournal.com
Do you always look before you leap ?::finds out for self first hand and agrees with all you said::

Re: music is good...

Date: 2003-06-02 07:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] azaz-al.livejournal.com
No, I don't... I speak from hard learned experience in this case though...

Date: 2003-06-02 10:18 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hai-kah-uhk.livejournal.com
Potholes?! You don't go to Boston to escape potholes.

Maybe it's the culture. Being the City of 10,000 Colleges, Boston has some nifty culture going on (not that N'Orleans doesn't, but it's... different culture). Although it also has the tendency to make people my age feel old.

And also possibly because it has the air of being a place of much tolerance. This is only partially true - all those college students bring a certain degree of activism and such to the city. Boston also has a history of implementing certain types of racial tolerance ahead of everyone else (including the very first black ghetto, back in the 1700's). This, of course, is a misleading impression; the "Us vs. Them" mentality runs as deep as everywhere else. But it's covered over by a pretty facade of tolerance.

Or maybe it's just jobs. There are some there.

Date: 2003-06-02 10:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sophiaserpentia.livejournal.com
Jobs. Hmph. You would mention the real reason.

Date: 2003-06-02 11:01 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kyrene.livejournal.com
Potholes?! You don't go to Boston to escape potholes.

Agreed. Especially around where I live. Crap, are the roads bad right now.

Date: 2003-06-02 11:14 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sophiaserpentia.livejournal.com
They have potholes up there? Man, I thought the potholes were having a convention here or something. Or maybe they were just visiting New Orleans and decided to stick around.

Date: 2003-06-02 11:58 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] alobar.livejournal.com
Up north thwere is phenomena called frost heave. Whenever there is trhe slightest porosity in a street & water gets in, then whenever that water freezes, it expands, and the porosity gets greater so the next time it freezes with water in the pores, it expands again & the hole gets even larger. Now remember that the sun warms the pavement some many days in witer, and it freezes most every night. So the phenomena of frost heave is working about once or twice each day for about 4-5 months a year. Where I lived in upstate NY, the last frost date for planting agarden was my birthday, May 27.

Date: 2003-06-02 12:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sophiaserpentia.livejournal.com
I guess time will tell which is more destructive for roads -- frost heave, or the sinking ground in NOLA.

I've lived in the south pretty much my whole life (except 0-6 of which I have no memory) so am unfamiliar with things like frost heave.

Date: 2003-06-02 01:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] alobar.livejournal.com
I predict that within our lifetime the entire SE part of Louisiana will wash out to sea; that the North shore of Lake Ponchertrain will be the new gulf coast of the state; and New Orleans, Metarie, & Kenner will be an island in the gulf surrounded by dikes.

Re:

Date: 2003-06-02 12:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kyrene.livejournal.com
bad New England weather leads to potholes.

it's a given.

Date: 2003-06-02 11:15 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] azaz-al.livejournal.com
Yeah, really - I believe Boston is the city in the US with the worst roads, according to a study I read last year (unless they've dramatically improved).
But they do have a subway here...

Date: 2003-06-02 11:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sophiaserpentia.livejournal.com
Yeah, that's the ticket! A New Orleans subway. There's an idea whose time has come (and gone). I'm surprised the politicians haven't realized what kind of a personal cash cow an idea like that could be for each of them.

Re:

Date: 2003-06-02 11:28 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] azaz-al.livejournal.com
I don't believe its financially/architecturally feasible in the swamps, do you? I'd be afraid to go in a subway there...

Date: 2003-06-02 12:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sophiaserpentia.livejournal.com
I was kidding... of COURSE a New Orleans subway is a dumb idea. Wouldn't necessarily stop them. OTOH the idea of a maglev train comes up every now and then, which is a bad idea for the same reason that roads are a bad idea here (the sinking ground).

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Date: 2003-06-02 12:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] azaz-al.livejournal.com
It is more feasible though. From what I understand, it is possible architecturally in the same way skyscrapers are - by using support systems twice as deep and strong as those of skyscrapers built on non-swampland.

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Date: 2003-06-02 12:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kyrene.livejournal.com
yes. the T system is pretty good. I hear it doesn't beat NYC but it's good.

Date: 2003-06-02 06:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] partyrunes.livejournal.com
the "Us vs. Them" mentality runs as deep as everywhere else ~ its true::sigh::

Date: 2003-06-02 10:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hai-kah-uhk.livejournal.com
Or, ooh, maybe it's the Puritan Blue Laws! The one making it illegal for liquor stores to be open on Sundays was repealed while I was in college.

There's a certain sick appeal in some kinds of prudishness. :)

Date: 2003-06-02 10:25 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sophiaserpentia.livejournal.com
Hmm, yeah, maybe there is too much "burden of freedom" involved with living in a town where the bars never close.

Date: 2003-06-02 11:14 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] azaz-al.livejournal.com
The blue laws do suck. I might point out however, that the most annoying one (to me, anyway) about sodomy is the same in Louisiana... also when there are laws here, the police tend to only enforce the laws that actually exist instead of making up laws on the spot as an excuse to arrest anyone they dislike the sight of... (bitter, angry at current NOLA situation that I can't do much of anything about)

the real reason was already taken... Jobs

Date: 2003-06-02 06:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] partyrunes.livejournal.com
Sea Breeze. I was there almost often thru 87' to 90' Sam Adams is made there... I like the sail ships in the harbor. The people talk funny too.::face down eyes looking up with a pleasant smirk::

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