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What does guidance from the divine presence look like?

After pondering this question at length, I decided that the guidance I felt could be described as a calm, compassionate, yet silent presence. This presence 'invited' me (by virtue of my wanting to be like it) to see things from its perspective; as I did so, I noted that my anger and my discord melted away.

I have seen this described as "union with God" but it is much more subtle than that. What people seem to imagine when they hear that phrase is a kind of vanishing of the personal self, like drops of water becoming a part of the ocean. The most useful metaphor I could find for what I actually felt, though, was the idea of being a musician in an orchestra: I could contribute my part to the greater whole by learning how to play in key and in rhythm with the other musicians around me. That doesn't mean that my individuality is annihilated, simply that I choose, for the sake of my eventual betterment, to surrender for the moment to the larger will.

I found that quieting my mind by means of contemplative meditation, rhythmic breathing, and mindfulness exercises helped me to better cultivate this presence and its calming effect on me. The stillness in my mind became the stillness that is the divine presence. I felt more sane, more rational, more able to weather the turbulence of life because that turbulence had less of a hold on me and in me.

I have also found that harmony with the divine presence is an ongoing process, not something that happens once and for all, like a light switch being clicked. The stresses and changes in my life, and the fact of dealing with unaddressed hurts from my past, has led me at times over the past year to feel as though I have been drifting away from the well of calm. That connection can be lost; and that loss does not mean that the connection was never genuine, just that I allowed the fog to descend once again by failing to cultivate the stillness within me.

My examinations of religious literature have led me to believe that this is the primary experience described by most of the mystics throughout history. It takes some unraveling to come to this understanding, but over the years of writing this journal I have made a dent in the work required to elucidate this.

I am deeply mistrustful of "revelations" from the divine that come in the form of concepts or words. Much of the time I think that what is happening here is that someone has a mystical experience, and then takes this profound experience as divine endorsement of whatever thoughts he had swirling around in his head at the time. I cannot discount the possibility that divine guidance might come in the form of explicit words or ideas, but I strongly doubt it. "Truth" is a field of thorns, and words are such a flawed way of expressing wisdom that I hesitate to use them myself much of the time, so it is impossible for me to imagine that they could be the vehicle of "eternal truths."

heh

Date: 2004-11-30 02:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] delascabezas.livejournal.com
words are material, wisdom is ethereal - the two meet on some levels, but mostly go about thier business on very different planes.

my question to you is this: what if the well of calm is a facade, and the hurt, strife, chaos, and madness we strive to exempt ourselves from is the true spiritual fruit of being?

that is to say, what if god likes reality tv?

Re: heh

Date: 2004-11-30 06:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sophiaserpentia.livejournal.com
what if the well of calm is a facade, and the hurt, strife, chaos, and madness we strive to exempt ourselves from is the true spiritual fruit of being?

Then I suppose I will see you in hell. At least it should then be a very calm and peaceful place.

HA

Date: 2004-11-30 06:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] delascabezas.livejournal.com
i'm talking in a hypothetical sense of course - what if there is a god who is a lot more of a destroyer than a creator?

Re: HA

Date: 2004-11-30 10:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sophiaserpentia.livejournal.com
Hmm. There are several nuances to this.

For example, the Gnostic mythology describes a demented demiurgos or creator-god who contrives to deceive and ensnare humankind. In this view the creator is evil, selfish, and malicious, but there is a more powerful, benevolent, and sublime divinity "above" him.

Are you suggesting something like this, or simply outright maltheism?

If maltheism turns out to be true, then I'm just plain wrong. But in that case, like the old song goes, I don't want to be right.

well

Date: 2004-12-01 02:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] delascabezas.livejournal.com
i admit what i was suggesting had malthiestic overtones. my personal beliefs don't hold to any one school of formal thought too well. i am not suggesting the possibility god is evil in a total sense, rather that his aims mught be as selfish as the 4 eyar old in the candy shop. "evil" is a hazy defintion to tag on a creator, imo. i am not suggesting this because i neccisarily belive it, but more to poke at your outlook a little. obviously, given your background and research in the area, you've mulled all this over, but it deserves looking at again time and again.i'm not trying to make this a wrong or right thing, so much as i am tryong to spread the shades of grey between the tranquility of spiritual enlightenment, and the awe of an unbridled destructive elemental force. which is more spiritual and why, y'know? and, if you believe in a creator, how do they link back to that creator?

ultimately, the answer to all this is "one cannot know the mind of god". ants don't understand much outside the workings of the anthill, and even if they did, they can only grasp at it in terms that relate back to the anthill (which is woefully limited in explaining certain things).

sorry, i got to babbling. what was the question again? =)

Date: 2004-12-01 04:04 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] c3fyn.livejournal.com
I am deeply mistrustful of "revelations" from the divine that come in the form of concepts or words.

As a compulsive rationalist, I would tend to agree with you. Language (at least for me) seems often to trip me up into the "What The Thinker Thinks, The Prover Proves" trap. Not to say that I haven't spilt endless ink trying to philosophize and explicate my conceptions of (t)ruth, but for the most part I think the Numinous must remain an experiential thing. Or, to let Chuang Tzu show me up: "The Tao which can be expressed is no longer the Tao."

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