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The Free State Project is a movement that is gathering the promises of 20,000 libertarians, to move to New Hampshire once enough people have been assembled.

The idea is that 20,000 libertarians converging on New Hampshire would create a large enough contingent to be able to affect the laws of the state.

Suppose... suppose a large number of gays, lesbians, bisexuals, transgendered, intersex, pagan, and poly people all moved to the same state, until a saturation point was reached. At that point we woul be a large enough community to affect state policy, or were even a majority. A place where we knew that, no matter what, we were welcome and accepted, where we could live as we wish without fear of reprisal and bigotry.

By estimate, we make up 5-10% of the population. Heck, we could take over several states.

Date: 2004-04-23 10:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] drewfer.livejournal.com
I'd suspect most Libertarians are highly tolerant/accepting of such lifestyles and a side effect of the FSP would be that such a community would be fairly unhindered.

Btw, I'm seriously considering signing my family up there for the FSP but my wife is not fond of colder climates so we're still in the negotiation stage ;)

Date: 2004-04-23 10:54 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sophiaserpentia.livejournal.com
You're probably right; many libertarians agree that the state has no place regulating what people do in their bedrooms or how they arrange their families.

But libertarians take many things too far for me.

Date: 2004-04-23 10:55 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] drewfer.livejournal.com
That's part of what the free state project is about I suppose. Seeing what works and what doesn't.
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Date: 2004-04-23 11:47 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sophiaserpentia.livejournal.com
Maybe you can tell me what libertarians would recommend for disabled people who cannot work. A large part of the reason I can't be libertarian, is that it seems to be in denial of the idea that problems are best solved when we see them as problems affecting all of us.
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Date: 2004-04-23 12:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sophiaserpentia.livejournal.com
I believe in communities of people supporting one another.

How do you get them to do that?

In the past, disabled people had only family, charity, and church to rely upon for their care. It was often substandard. The medical costs of caring for many kinds of disability are enough to destroy a family financially -- it is too much of a burden.

It was only when the federal government decided to impose standards of care, and require businesses to be accessible, and to make reasonable accomodation on the job, and so forth, that disabled people have had any hope of being seen as something other than a burden and an untouchable class.

The solution you suggest, I'm sad to say, won't cut it, not by far.

Date: 2004-04-23 12:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] akaiyume.livejournal.com
I am right there with your wife. I think the answer is a multi-pronged attack. Gather enough people to take over New Hampshire and Hawaii!

Date: 2004-04-24 06:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gentlemaitresse.livejournal.com
I was going to suggest the same thing. :-)

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