The CIA, busy protecting the world's "democracy" again...

[sophiaserpentia]

from New Boss, Worse Than the Old Boss

The Bushies have learned from their failed attempt to overthrow President Hugo Chávez. Rather than rely on a pathetic grab bag of businessmen and fringe political hacks to pull off a civilian putsch as they did in Venezuela, the CIA directly funded and armed Duvalier-affiliated thugs to seize control militarily. U.S. Special Forces-trained ex-coup leader Guy Philippe and leaders of the CIA-backed paramilitary FRAPH death squad, supplied with thousands of U.S.-made M-16 and M-60 rifles as well as rocket-propelled grenades and tank-busting artillery shells (most likely at U.S. taxpayer expense), invaded Haiti from bases in the Dominican Republic. "Congress needs to seriously look at what the involvement of the Defense Intelligence Agency and the Central Intelligence Agency has been in this operation," says Ira Kurzban, a Miami lawyer representing the Aristide government. "Because it is a military operation. It's not a rag-tag group of liberators, as has often been put in the press in the last week or two."

Amazingly, Bush's spokesman argues that there's nothing undemocratic about deposing a popularly elected president. There are times when people lose faith... in the ability of their leaders to govern effectively, and this is what happened." says Scott McClellan. He called the coup "a democratic and constitutional solution that we achieved working with our international partners."

Comments

[azaz-al.livejournal.com]

"Bush's spokesman argues that there's nothing undemocratic about deposing a popularly elected president."

Then he shouldn't mind if he gets deposed, right?

[sophiaserpentia.livejournal.com]

He was jealous of Aristide's having won the popular vote, perhaps?

[azaz-al.livejournal.com]

Oooooooooooooooooooooh, that was low (giggles)

[sophiaserpentia.livejournal.com]

Well, he can't go around having two-bit Caribbean presidents upstaging him during his "re"election campaign, now, can he?

[azaz-al.livejournal.com]

omg u r so evil :))
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[akaiyume.livejournal.com]

Bit do you think we will get funded and supplied by the US Government if we attempt to depose our dictator, uhm, I mean our popularly elec, our current president.

~V
(who is paranoid that there will be machine guns waiting at the polls in November to mow down all non-bushies)

[azaz-al.livejournal.com]

(feels evil enough to fuel paranoia today)
I don't think there will be guards at te polls to shoot down non-bushies, but a more likely scenario is a sudden need to declare martial law and therefore no elections. :o :o :o

[akaiyume.livejournal.com]

That's one particular bit of paranoia that doesn't need fueling. That one began the day that the Supreme Court picked the president. I'm sure Sophia can vouch for how many times I've voiced doubts about the next presidential election occuring.

Personally, I'm expecting the next big "terrorist" action to occur sometime in September. Long enough to get martial law in place but soon enough so the shocked populace doesn't react to what is going on. Or maybe the attack will come a day or two before elections and Bush will count on the sort of surge of popularity that followed the first one to win his "re"-election bid.

[liminalia.livejournal.com]

Nah, Bushies will just capture Osama right before the election. He's sending Special Forces troops to northern Pakistan in coming months. They'll just track him down and tree him until October or so, then dramatically capture or kill him with CNN cameras rolling.

http://msnbc.msn.com/id/4068864/

[alobar.livejournal.com]

But Bush was never elected by popular vote. So he thinks the rule does not apply to him.

[azaz-al.livejournal.com]

oic! LOL

Haiti, where's that?

[publius-aelius.livejournal.com]

I'll admit I just haven't been following this story very closely--partly because I have difficulty believing there's anything in Haiti that Bush and his awful crew want. The country is a basket case politically, and I don't know of any resources it's got that we'd want to exploit. Also, Aristide was never much of a "revolutionary" once he got power. So what's this all about?

Re: Haiti, where's that?

[sophiaserpentia.livejournal.com]

I wasn't paying much attention either, though a story last week about claims that Aristide was kidnapped by US Marines raised my eyebrow.

I don't know what's at stake here, to be honest. It is curious, why the CIA would bother engineering a coup there. It is close to the USA, but there are no resources there, there aren't even trees left in the entire country. Maybe they're concerned about a wave of populist anti-US sentiment throughout Latin America? I don't know. I suspect there are things going on we aren't being told about.

Re: Haiti, where's that?

[alobar.livejournal.com]

My belief is that the US government wants as many repressive right wing regimes in power as possible. The US government wants allies. Maybe the US wants help in training domestic death squads for use here in the US. I hate to sound paranoid, but nothing is too evil to imagine when it comes to the neo-con agenda here or in the US.

Remember peak oil? Whether it is real or not, if the US keeps impovished nations near our border as poor as possible & torn by internal stife, they are less likely to pose a threat if the peak oil predictions are correct.

Re: Haiti, where's that?

[anosognosia.livejournal.com]

Haiti doesn't seem to fit with the neoconservative agenda. They're not particularly concerned with allies, or pitting puppet regimes against one another as the Reaganites were, but rather in a more overt form of empire centered around permanent military occupation of the middle east and southeast asia.

Although the neoconservatives are the overwhelming ideology in Washington right now, they're not the only one; and the less prevalent ideologies often influence policy as well, simply to a lesser extent. This Haiti thing could be a concession to them.

Re: Haiti, where's that?

[akaiyume.livejournal.com]

Yes it is close to US borders. There have also been a few stories in the press within the last couple of weeks detailing how the political turmoil and apathatic leadership of Haiti has made it a prime stop over port for smuggling OMG illegal drugs into the United States.

So if the current government gets denounced for its actions in Haiti, you know the defense will be "The War On Drugs" bullshit.

Let's see. Whatever could the CIA want with a country notorious for its lax goverment and largely overlooked and unexamined by the rest of the world due to its poverty and lack of resources. Well, I suppose it is possible that someone in charge could have developed a respect for the Voudouns, but I think it is a hell of a lot more likely that if such a place with a leader the, you know, OWED the CIA then all sorts of unofficial CIA actions could take place there with no one being the wiser. You know, stuff like drug smuggling, the torture of political prisoners... those kinds of things that our government would /sarcasm/never/ /sarcasm/ / engage in.

Re: Haiti, where's that?

[sophiaserpentia.livejournal.com]

Ooh. Now there's a scary thought -- maybe Camp X-Ray at Guantanamo Bay is too small for what they have planned next.

Re: Haiti, where's that?

[anosognosia.livejournal.com]

It's possible that some people simply oppose Aristide enough to desperately want him deposed; not everything is a conspiracy.

[kittenkissies.livejournal.com]

So let's de-pose hizzass.