Sorry about the word choice then. I that was the connotations you saw I didn't mean that. I don't feel the same resonances with the word issues that you do.
It isn't just plastic surgeons and diet hawkers. I have to modify my body language and natural tone of speaking to be seen as not aggressive. Even though the body language and tone are naturally still less "out there" of what a male does to be percieved as calm and logical. The more "feminine" I am dressed, the more I have to modify how I naturally express myself in order to even have a chance of being heard. Nevermind that the ways I have modify it means it carries less weight - it is still more weight than what it would get if I didn't modify it.
And the animosity isn't a one way street. I will agree that it is totally mistaken to say all tranpeople - but from what I've seen the number of transpeople who are clueless about the issues women face are about equal to the percentage of the general population that is clueless, you know. Nothing special there. People being people and still inculturated into general view of gender.
I can recognize the fact that trans people have to work hard and put up with a lot to be seen as a gender description that fits them a hell of a lot better than it does others. But it seems anytime someone stands up and says, "you know, having really defined genders isn't a great thing for everyone" trans people yell that is silencing. Plenty of recognition that what is "feminine" should be given more value in society, shouldn't be as manipulated as it, but almost total lack of recognition that some of the things they strive to be seen as, women who don't want to be seen as that thing have been fighting against having certain traits thrust onto and still not be called "unfeminine" or "emasuclating" with just as little success.
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Date: 2007-05-24 09:09 pm (UTC)It isn't just plastic surgeons and diet hawkers. I have to modify my body language and natural tone of speaking to be seen as not aggressive. Even though the body language and tone are naturally still less "out there" of what a male does to be percieved as calm and logical. The more "feminine" I am dressed, the more I have to modify how I naturally express myself in order to even have a chance of being heard. Nevermind that the ways I have modify it means it carries less weight - it is still more weight than what it would get if I didn't modify it.
And the animosity isn't a one way street. I will agree that it is totally mistaken to say all tranpeople - but from what I've seen the number of transpeople who are clueless about the issues women face are about equal to the percentage of the general population that is clueless, you know. Nothing special there. People being people and still inculturated into general view of gender.
I can recognize the fact that trans people have to work hard and put up with a lot to be seen as a gender description that fits them a hell of a lot better than it does others. But it seems anytime someone stands up and says, "you know, having really defined genders isn't a great thing for everyone" trans people yell that is silencing. Plenty of recognition that what is "feminine" should be given more value in society, shouldn't be as manipulated as it, but almost total lack of recognition that some of the things they strive to be seen as, women who don't want to be seen as that thing have been fighting against having certain traits thrust onto and still not be called "unfeminine" or "emasuclating" with just as little success.