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sophiaserpentia ([personal profile] sophiaserpentia) wrote2008-04-30 12:11 pm

hmm, now here's an interesting one.

The people of Lesbos want gay women to stop calling themselves Lesbians.

Yes, i can illustrate the problem by imagining a Big Gay Sketch in my mind's eye: a man on a flight from Athens tells a US Customs Agent that he's a Lesbian; hilarity ensues. Gee, how funny.

The use of the term to refer to homosexual women dates to the Victorian era. It was, like so many other Victorian terms, a euphemism designed to hide what could not be talked about. It was adopted alongside the now archaic term sapphist; both refer to Sappho, the ancient resident of Lesbos who wrote love poems to women.

It is not the only geographic name which has been appropriated to describe women who live as partners; see for example the term "Boston marriage," which dates to roughly the same time period. (Hmm, someone on my friend's list wrote about this term in the last week, but i don't remember who, sorry.)

Since the political lesbian movement of the 1970's, the term "lesbian" has been cemented in our cultural consciousness, so much so that the term "gay" has come in many contexts to be seen as exclusively referring to men. But, just as 'transwoman' is not a real word but a composite term made of a norm + a modifier, 'gay woman' is not a real word; but neither is 'lesbian,' being an appropriated geographical term (still being used by the people who live there today) and is more of a moralistic erasure. It is more like the heteronormative imposition of a big "CENSORED" bar than a word itself. It is another example of the dominant culture using language as a weapon to deny identity; and we queer folk have made do with the modifiers and erasures given us, but we have yet to have actual words for who it is that we are.

[identity profile] rhonan.livejournal.com 2008-04-30 08:59 pm (UTC)(link)
Why not just toss all gender based terms for queer and just go with queer? I think it would be far less divisive then the current situation.

[identity profile] sophiaserpentia.livejournal.com 2008-05-01 02:24 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm a big fan of affinity politics and would rather preach affinity over identity - not least because i'm tired of identity-based divisiveness between people who otherwise have much more in common than not - but even within the queer community there is not uniformity of belief, experience, or need. Embracing that diversity means, among other things, expressing it.

Unfortunately, human politics are very predictable. As soon as you start to paint over the differences between people in a group, those with diverging experience within the group start feeling pressured to silence themselves for the good of all.

[identity profile] rhonan.livejournal.com 2008-05-01 03:59 pm (UTC)(link)
True, but the thing with labels is that there is always going to be somebody that the label rubs the wrong way and is therefore not happy with it.