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sophiaserpentia ([personal profile] sophiaserpentia) wrote2006-08-03 12:13 pm

they've stolen the keys to the kingdom, and neither do they enter, nor do they allow anyone to enter

The Notre Dame Basilica in Montreal is beautiful. I mean, breathtakingly, heartbreakingly beautiful.

It is dark as night inside. The neo-gothic ceiling is decorated in dark blue with gold stars and large rose windows. The balconies and columns are made of dark, rich wood intricately carved and decorated with gold leaf. If one turns around and peeks up, one can see a 7000-pipe organ over the back balcony. Despite all of this complex ornamentation the eye is drawn forward to the chancel and altar, which stands out of the darkness, shining and bright.

[livejournal.com profile] cowgrrl and i first arrived at the Basilica at 11:30 on Sunday -- so a morning Mass was underway. We were able to peek in for a few moments, and could hear the organ and accompanying choir. In those few moments i felt an immense sense of peace, of centeredness; i remembered a few things about religion and worship that, in my cynicism, i had forgotten.

[livejournal.com profile] cowgrrl described her reaction as "religion envy," since she was brought up without exposure to devout religious practices. And i began to feel like a refugee again, because this is a place to which i can never return.

I just can't set aside awareness of the many people i've known, including myself, who have been deeply damaged by people acting in the name of god and church. I cannot overlook the role of religious institutions in the stealth genocide.

For me the damage runs deeply enough that i doubt i will be able to sit peacefully in any sort of church ever again, feeling welcome and valued and loved. The closest i came was during my years of involvement with the UU church. And while during those years i encountered a number of people i feel very fondly towards even now, i am just too disillusioned by organized religion these days.

[identity profile] sophiaserpentia.livejournal.com 2006-08-03 04:50 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't think anyone could go and not be affected by the beauty of this place.

Next time i go perhaps i will do a banishing. APO PANTOS KAKODAIMONOS!

[identity profile] azaz-al.livejournal.com 2006-08-03 04:52 pm (UTC)(link)
You do that, sweety!

I'm sure it is very beautiful. But "God" doesn't live there any more than anywhere else.

[identity profile] brontosproximo.livejournal.com 2006-08-03 04:55 pm (UTC)(link)
The next time we're together, remind me to tell you all about our Oratory of Saint Joseph story (It's also in Montreal)

[identity profile] azaz-al.livejournal.com 2006-08-03 04:56 pm (UTC)(link)
If you like :)

[identity profile] cowgrrl.livejournal.com 2006-08-03 05:03 pm (UTC)(link)
We saw that building too, but only from the outside and for, like, two minutes.

[identity profile] brontosproximo.livejournal.com 2006-08-03 05:08 pm (UTC)(link)
It must be experienced from the inside too.

When I was in the last stages of trying to stay with the Church I made a pilgrimage there and prayed on my knees up the stairs, all the way to the top of the mountain.

[identity profile] stacymckenna.livejournal.com 2006-08-04 12:16 am (UTC)(link)
Exactly. Admire the architecture for the architecture, and the music for the music.

[identity profile] azaz-al.livejournal.com 2006-08-03 04:56 pm (UTC)(link)
Also remember - getting a few moments of belonging in that pretty building with the cool ritual comes at a terribly high price - that of hating yourself and living in terrible fear of eternal torment and rejection by God if you don't deny everything that you are.
Not worth it.

[identity profile] alobar.livejournal.com 2006-08-03 06:20 pm (UTC)(link)
> I don't think anyone could go and not be affected
> by the beauty of this place.

I probably would want to vomit. Catholic edifices really creep me out. Inquisitions, the Crusades, people being murdered for being apostates. Huge ornate churches built from money "given" by the poor who "give" to the church rather than improve their lot.

The mythology of the catholic church is built upon fear and the psychotic episodes of a deranged father god. Had IHVH gotten laid frequently, maybe he would have mellowed out some.

Going inside catholic churches make me want to puke and/or hurl a bomb. No way do I see any of catholic "art" to be inspiring or the least bit uplifting. Catholic churches are a circus side show horror show, only a horror show has more fun caricatures than catholic churches.