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sophiaserpentia ([personal profile] sophiaserpentia) wrote2004-03-24 01:45 pm

Thanat-eros.

The act of sex is equivalent to spitting the eye of fate.

It is life, defying its death sentence. It is celebration in the face of eventual loss and sorrow. It is closeness and intimacy in spite of the fear and aloofness bred into us by callousness.

This is why sex is sacred, and why it is such an important battlefield with the archons. The archons must control sex to retain their control; this is how they play ape politics with us. Archontic control of sex is the equivalent of "collaring" the entire society.

[identity profile] alobar.livejournal.com 2004-03-24 11:58 am (UTC)(link)
You talking about all sex? Or just sex for procreation here?

[identity profile] sophiaserpentia.livejournal.com 2004-03-24 12:18 pm (UTC)(link)
All sex.

Edit to add: The new theory of neurotheology proposes that the "god circuits" in the brain evolved hand-in-hand with the same circuits that allow us to feel sexual pleasure.

re: your edit

[identity profile] twistedcat.livejournal.com 2004-03-24 01:11 pm (UTC)(link)
yes. the same ecstacy i feel when i touch source is the same feeling i get when i orgasm. ok, that may have been TMI, but i'm trying to prove a point.

i've been putting together a new workshop in which people find that place where it feels like they're no E/X simply through journeywork/meditation. my biggest problem is i don't want to teach it to creepy people ;-)

where does creativity fit into this theory, if at all? also workingo n a women's workshop to help achieve balance between those two. so many women i know get into a relationship and lose their creativity, or are at their most creative when they are celibate; i maintain you can have both, it's a balance issue within the 1st chakra.

and yes, i could easily teach a co-ed workshop, but many women have safety issues around sex and i'd like them to feel ok being open in the class....

Re: your edit

[identity profile] sophiaserpentia.livejournal.com 2004-03-24 02:26 pm (UTC)(link)
That reaction is far from unique.

Some (especially those who know me well, hehehe) may suppose I am advocating wanton lustfulness vs. harsh ascetism. But I just want to clarify that this is a false dichotomy that distracts from the real issue; the real dichotomy I'm perceiving is between fear of flesh vs. acceptance of flesh.

As for your practical questions regarding seminars -- that is not something I have experience with, but I know people who have done sex-positive seminars. There may be one or two who read this in fact. ;-) If no one speaks up, or if I don't think of any suggestions, I'll send an email or two...

[identity profile] alobar.livejournal.com 2004-03-24 04:07 pm (UTC)(link)
If that is the case, then it seems to follow that animals which engage in sex for pleasure are also capable to tapping into the "god circuits". Animals which come most readily to mind in this regard are dolphins & octopii.

[identity profile] sophiaserpentia.livejournal.com 2004-03-25 05:57 am (UTC)(link)
I don't see why not. OTOH to confirm that hypothesis I would have to know more about dolphin and octopus neurology.

[identity profile] alobar.livejournal.com 2004-03-25 10:42 am (UTC)(link)
While not directly related, I thought you might be interested in octopus learning here: http://www.livejournal.com/users/achadachad/81765.html

[identity profile] alobar.livejournal.com 2004-03-26 12:22 am (UTC)(link)
I was very much thinking of the statement you made about the god circuits being tied into the same circuits which allow us to feel sexual pleasure when I penned the posts I made earlier tonight against circumcision. When writing this post in particular http://www.livejournal.com/users/alobar/789653.html, I was very much thinking of what you said. I ended my post with a quote from http://montagunocircpetition.org/index.php?pcf=genitalpain which states:

This fundamentalist/orthodox morality of Western Civilization requires that the sensual/sexual pleasures of the body must be extremely limited if not destroyed to achieve "salvation of the soul" (re, the "virtues" of celibacy, virginity and chastity). What better place to begin than with the mutilation and destruction of the genitals which are designed to experience

which comes directly back to my thoughts that religions based in celibacy, virginity, chastity, and genital mutilation are inherantly antithetical to the god circuits.

[identity profile] sophiaserpentia.livejournal.com 2004-03-26 08:59 am (UTC)(link)
The only caveat on that I would note, is that for some celibacy appears to be an effective mystical tool. However, my stance on that is, if that is what works, then fine; but it seems to me harmful to advocate celibacy for anyone other than an anchorite or maybe a priest (depending on the order).

The issue here is that the archontic hegemony mistrusts direct mystical experience and anything that resembles it.

[identity profile] alobar.livejournal.com 2004-03-26 10:15 am (UTC)(link)
I have no problem with most anything if it is a self-chosen mystical path. But when something is foisted upon the young & told it is "holy" to "mortify the flesh" or be celibate until marriage that just squicks me out.

I do wonder if the huge amount of BDSM I see these days will diminish if children are raised more in love & respect & caring than they are now. I would not attempt to answer that question, but I would like to see a comparison of two cultures with very different levels of sensitivity in child rearing.

> the archontic hegemony mistrusts
> direct mystical experience

hehe -- whereas I distrust any & all groups (and persons) which (or who) distrust direct mystical experience