I'd say the proof is in the pudding. Look at each today and tell me which state would y'all rather live in? Me, if I wanted to eat grass, I'd have been born a dog.

I'm not really trying defending mass murder. I'm simply saying that, all in all, we're a pretty cannibalistic species whatever nation state we come from and only some Profound Change* will make us otherwise.

~M~

*And I believe you know my position (http://community.livejournal.com/e_speaks/36317.html) on that matter.