ext_381052 ([identity profile] publius-aelius.livejournal.com) wrote in [personal profile] sophiaserpentia 2004-05-26 11:33 am (UTC)

Paul=Antichrist?

You've done really good scholarly work here, in my opinion. Is [livejournal.com profile] yahvah on your "friends' list"?--Because he should be, if he isn't already. I'm going to look and see, and then link to this if he's not. Your approach to Paul is calm, rational and scholarly. Mine is that of all the artists and writers who've always responded negatively to him--Nietzsche, Katzanzakis, Blake, etc.--who instinctively loathe him--and in my case, I guess, it's increased by my sexual proclivity. However, I really DO believe, in my heart of hearts that he DESTROYED Jesus's doctrine. You say you believe it wasn't deliberate, and I can assent that this horrible, watered-down legalistic and Gnostic faith that he manufactured and substituted in the place of the magnificent Jewish mystic spirituality of Yeshua Ben Nazroti was infinitely more palatable to pagan mystery-cultists all over the Roman World, and so was able to propogate itself, win world domination, and last as long as it has, only because Paul knew the audience he was preaching to so well. My Jewish friend Scott [livejournal.com profile] yahvah thinks that the "Christian" sect is ACTUALLY "the Antichrist" at work in the world, spreading false doctrine and a denial of Yeshua's "Messiahhood" among the Jews, but he absolves Paul of blame for creating the "Christian" monstrosity. I don't.
Meanwhile, the MOST fun reading on this subject is Nietzsche, Jeremy Bentham (Jesus Without Paul) and the rather theologically technical work by Martin Buber, Two Kinds of Faith. Nietzsche is the funniest, and the most withering, but Buber will give you the most to think about.
By the way, I'd NEVER think of deleting you from my "friends' list." You are the most brilliant, the most scholarly person on these subjects that I know. Scott is the second-most scholarly, but he cannot get beyond his defensiveness regarding Judaism. I love Judaism, too, but I'm absolutely convinced that the Judaism of Christ's time had become decadent on account of all the Hellenic gnosticism that had crept into it.

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